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Perhaps a breakthrough in the catholic church!?

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This article I've read today in my newspaper. Could it be that there can be seen light at the end of the tunnel?
Here is my translation of this article and please forgive if my English will not be always correct.
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Vatican wants openess for divorced people and homosexuals
ROME - The FAMILY SYNOD, which is in session at the Vatican, has marked for more openess towards divorced people which have been remarried and homosexuals.

In a interim report, which was published on Monday, Oct. 13, 2014 in the Vatican, the Bishopsare demanding "bold decisions" of the church towards couples which will not correspond to the traditional chatholic family portrait. It will not be in order to demand solutions in one's mind's eye of a "logic of all or nothing" they say in their report, which summarized the comments of the 191 voting participants. The church must themselves supply to the reality of the family of today "in the full complexity of their light and shade sides."

Also people with failed relationships, couples without marriage certificate and homosexuals must be accepted in their "specific life" and they must be encouraged in their requirement to feel themselves unrestricted as a part of the church.

A range of the synod fathers, as the voting participants are called, are demanding a simplification of the voidness of marriage procedure. Therewith it is possible in the catholic church a broken marriage amongst certain conditions to declare as null and void. With this declaration it could be possible to clear the way for a new ecclesial marriage.

A special chapter of this report is dedicated to homosexuals. These people are commanding over "bounties and skills" which they could contributing into the church. Same-sex relationships indeed can't be equivalent to the "normal" marriage. But nev3ertheless there are existing too cases "in which the mutual help right up to a self-sacifice will be expressing a valuable support for the life of the partner.

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This was the article. What do you think?
 

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Baby steps... that's how we learn to walk
 

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Assuming this report gets acted on, it's a start. Big bureaucracies like the RCC take time to change, so it's nice to see someone at least pulling on the rudder to start the turn!

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I have to say their words have a false ring to them. I am distrustful of any wolf regardless of the finest sheep's clothing they wear. I do think the Pope may have a human heart beating in his chest but he is in a tiny minority among the Vatican elite. IMHO...

Just sayin'
 

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I have to say their words have a false ring to them. I am distrustful of any wolf regardless of the finest sheep's clothing they wear. I do think the Pope may have a human heart beating in his chest but he is in a tiny minority among the Vatican elite. IMHO...

Just sayin'

After I posted that comment I read this:

Conservative Catholics Strike Back Against Synod Document Welcoming Gays

VATICAN CITY (RNS) A day after signaling a warmer embrace of gays and lesbians and divorced Catholics, conservative cardinals hit back strongly Tuesday (Oct. 14), with one insisting that an abrupt-face on church teaching is “not what we are saying at all.”

After Monday’s release of a document with a softer tone on issues such as “welcoming homosexuals,” American Cardinal Raymond Burke and German Cardinal Gerhard Mueller complained the media was getting a biased view of the bishops’ debate.

“It seems to me that information is being manipulated in a way that gives comment to only one theory instead of faithfully reporting the various positions expressed,” Burke said in a full-page interview published in Italian by the conservative daily, Il Foglio.

“This worries me very much because a significant number of bishops do not accept the ideas of an opening, but few (people) know that.”

In a separate interview published Tuesday, Burke told the conservative U.S. outlet Catholic World Report that the bishops “cannot accept” any changes because they are not based in Scripture or church teaching.

Monday’s mid-point report was released Monday as the the nearly 200 bishops and lay delegates to the Synod on the Family called by Pope Francis broke into discussion groups.

The summary document, presented to the media by Hungarian Cardinal Peter Erdo, immediately provoked the fury of conservatives about how he and his colleagues were interpreting the spectrum of views aired on the synod floor.

In what looked like strenuous damage control, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, the Vatican’s chief spokesman, told a packed media conference Tuesday that this was a “working document, not a final document.”

South African Cardinal Wilfrid Napier told journalists the document had been misunderstood and that’s why it had caused “such an upset” among participants because the synod had not yet ended.

“The message has gone out, it is not what we are saying at all, ” Napier said of the media coverage. “Once it is out there there’s no way of retrieving it. It is not a true position. Whatever goes out after looks like damage control.”

Media reports claimed that the controversial summary document provoked 41 responses inside the synod from bishops, including staunch conservatives like Burke, who heads the Vatican’s highest court; Mueller, the Vatican’s doctrine czar; and Australian Cardinal George Pell, the powerful finance minister.

“The phrasing may lead people to believe that the document reflects the views of the synod,” Napier said. “We couldn’t have possibly agreed on it.”

Washington Cardinal Donald Wuerl, widely seen as a moderate and one of the cardinals charged with writing the synod’s final report to be released Saturday, declined to comment on the complaints but insisted the document was a “big step forward” in addressing issues concerning marriage and the family.

“What we saw in the document … was the first effort of this synod to present the issues in a way that expressed that we understand what the concerns are, what the issues are,” he said outside the Paul VI hall Tuesday.

New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan, too, rejected claims the document’s views were an “earthquake” in the church’s approach.

“It’s not the final word and we’re going to have a lot to say about it,” Dolan said in a radio interview. “And there were some that said we probably in our final statement need to be much more assertive about the timeless teaching of the church.”

Much of the attention has now turned to Pope Francis himself, and whether or how he will work to ensure that the the synod’s final report matches his own inclusive, pastoral approach.

Marco Tosatti, from the Italian daily La Stampa, said he would pay anything to know what the pope is scribbling on the many notes he passes to the synod’s secretary-general, Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri, throughout the synod sessions.

In his daily homily on Monday, Francis said “God has often reserved surprises for his people.” Burke, in his interview with Catholic World Report, said a statement by Francis “is long overdue.”

Whatever comes out of this week’s synod is simply a prelude to a follow-up synod in October 2015. Or, as Cardinal Anthony Tagle from the Philippines, put it: “The drama continues.”
 

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I'm not seeing here any offer of acceptance as equals, only the generous offer to put up with us as second class citizens with second class relationships. If they ever decide to follow the teaching of Jesus and accept everyone with unconditional love then I'll start to listen. Not until then.
 

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Yes Sniffit, today I've read the same article in my paper. The Bishops feel "misunderstood"! So it was a hoax. One day a little hope the next everything destroyed. That's the CHURCH!!!! But nevertheless I think a little bit trueness will be in this first article. Some younger Bishops perhaps try to change but the older ones try to prevent. But nevertheless I think the older ones will die some day and it will grow up a new genration of church leaders.
We don't give up our hope!!!!
 

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A great example of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!
 
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